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Thursday, October 27, 2011

Christian Ethics - Homosexuality

Reading on this topic, it got me interested to find out more about this topic of Challenge of Ethics - Homosexuality 

This topic has become so hot but it has never been an issue of the present only, but it has been of many generations and throughout centuries but it has become more crucial of an issue nowadays as youth struggle to discover their own identity in this new age and time. As this passage moves on one things we all should not is ... 

The Bible NEVER condemns anyone for the temptations he or she deals with!


In Newsweek , it also shows a cover story of gay marriage. 
editor Jon Meacham explains: "To argue that something is so because it is in the Bible is more than intellectually bankrupt--it is unserious, and unworthy of the great Judeo-Christian tradition. This conservative resort to biblical authority is the worst kind of fundamentalism." Curiously, he intends this as a defense of Lisa Miller's cover story, which announces that we should approve homosexual marriage because the Bible tells that Jesus would want us to.

What strong words he use to bring own the religion.

 Judeo - Christian is a term used in the United States since the 1940s to refer to standards of ethics said to be held in common by Christians and Judaism. 

What would traditions of the church be without the bible? And what I see is that he is just trying to say that the Bible is none other than a manmade product throughout history. A very dismissive way to regard the bible rather than a Divine book undercutting any appeal to the bible.  

Words used such as "unworthy" an "unserious" without a reason and explanation of why he is saying so. Is he also challenging the fact that in the past there was slavery but now no... last time they don't accept homosexuality, now they do. 

"Scripture gives us no good reason why gays and lesbian should not be married but a number of excellent reason why the should be" Lisa Miller

She talks about how scripture encourages polygamist, encourage people to leave their family and follow him, Paul in scripture encourage all single people to stay single. 

That was certainly taking words out of context from the bible. Paul merely encourage people to stay single in order to focus on doing Gods work to bring about peace. But the topic of homosexual relationship was brings about more unrest than peace which God wants. 

Polygamists relationship what is wrong with that?

Qn: Many people use this on me many times "I was born that way, God made me that way."
Answer: I would say, we were born sinners but we were given a choice of freewill. 

Qn: People start to say that "Christians are so intolerant"

As post modernism hits the world (It upholds the belief that there is no absolute truth and the way in which different people perceive the world is subjective.) it says that there are no guidelines, no universal moral norms to what we are to be tolerant to. And "tolerant" has become such an subjective word. This of coz would not sit well with what we as Christians coz God has given and implanted in us a set of moral values which we are to live by. 

Qn: Christians who insist on moral standards are considered intolerant and narrow minded.

Are Christian really un-accepting of others ? Or is it a emotional objections? This is mostly coming about by certain extreme actions of some Christians who gets o worked up by stuff so they go to extreme reactions - in turn affecting how Christians are viewed at large. 

So how do we respond to this charge of "intolerance"

Everyone is intolerant - and it is a good thing ! 
So Is slavary wrong? and Is rape wrong?
Than why are you intolerant of those behaviors?

Similarly We Christians believe that Homosexuality and Heterosexuality is wrong too. Because it is against the design and purpose of our creator. It is an active rebellion against God and hence that is why is it wrong. It is not coz we are intolerant of people who don't act like us. The standard is a divine standard.  

Romans 1:20 - 30
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

The verse 25 speaks of men exchanging the creator for the creature. It also continues to speak of the essence of idolatry on a human or a material object or animals (or even more than these). And this is place in place of God 

Verse 26 - 27 The rejection of God in Idolatry links directly to Immorality and further perversion at the sexual level manifested in sexual acts. So there is a close link between rejecting God in Idolatory with Sexual perversion. The verse tells us that men is created for God's glory, worship god, but in sin he perverts the vertical level (god n men) and worships the creature rather than the creator (horizontal level).... Rejection of the creator, and his design - a product of Idolatry , of rejecting the creator. Heterosexual relationship is also the same - when one man and one woman, were design to be in love, faithfulness but when we go outside the the design we would be actively rebelling against God. 

What the passage also says that Homosexuality is not a Genetic issue but a God issue. It everything that he design in a covenant between a man and a woman in marriage is thrown away when you reject God. When we choose to go in our own perversion way, God gives us over to what we want but facing in future the consequences ahead of us. When we reject God, we would be left empty and unfulfilled and broken and we fill it up with more Idolatry. 

Paul in Romans says that this is more of a creation issue not cultural issue. It is more of a person who is heterosexual engaging in a promiscuous acts (casual sex with many sex partners) 

So are we going to Glamourize homosexuality? Saying live and let live and no judging should be done. It is not about all this but about our obligation as Christians. We have an obligation to present the truth and anyone who stands for the truth should know what they are up against. If this is something not in God's design, we would see the evidence. 

Disturbing Truth
43% of male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners
28% of male 1000 or more partners.
- 79% said more than half were strangers

Just merely looking at the statistics, don't this tell you there is something really wrong out there about the lifestyle of these people? isn't there an un-fulfillment in this statistics? 

Qn: People counter argument is that "what about a loving homosexual relationship should be allowed?"
A careful study has been done , but 2 authors who were homosexual themselves, psychiatrist and psychologist themselves found: David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison
- 156 couples studies, 7 maintained sexual fidelity 
- 100 couples who were together for more than 5 years , 0 maintained sexual fidelity

Doesn't that suggest that this loving homosexual relation is nothing more than an illusion and if Romans 1 is true, it shows an unrelenting lust present. and who knows how honest the 7 were. and All these points to a longing that needs to be fulfilled that is not fulfilled in a homosexual relationships. We as Christians should be more compassionate about these people and present to them the gospel. - women at the well - christ as the living water. 

Damage of Homosexuality - Mainly to male
  • Medical 
    • 25 - 30 year decrease in life expectancy 
    • Chronic potentially fatal liver diseases - infectious hepatitis which increases the risk of liver cancer.
    • AIDS
    • Anual Cancer
    • Gonorrhea: An inflammatory disease of the genital tract.
    • Syphilis
    • Gay bowel Syndrome and other infectious diseases
  • Psychological Damage to Homosexual person
    • Increase Suicide 
    • Physical violence
    • Decrease likelihood of preserving marriage 
However for Heterosexual promiscuity also have some of these draw back too. So what it is telling us, is that if we go against God's will, we are also bound to face consequences which they bring upon themselves and the punishment they deserve.  So now we are challenge to have a stable loving Christian marriages, and we are to model sexual purity. When you are tempted sin in certain way, we need to remind ourselves that " it is going to rob me of the joy - Joy in God, Joy in a union of a husband and wife."

Is Homosexuality Genetic?
It maybe true but till today there is not one single research that can prove man or woman are born homosexual. The easiest way to prove this is the study of an Identical twins. 
- eye color 100% same (so it is genetic)
- If homosexuality is genetic identical twins would be both homosexual or heterosexual but studies have shown this is NOT the case (I too can personally confirm that)
So what we do about the "GAY GENES"?
Human Sexual Orientation. Biological Theories reappraised by William Byne, MD, PhDBruce Parsons, MD, PhD shows that the homosexuality genes are barely proven or sketchy at best. Many studies has been flawed or with a prior agenda to be pushed and the media wanting to say certain things but never backed with actual scientific data. Some Researcher - Kinsey for example has some findings but the sample used were Prison Inmates who were sex offenders and 44% of these inmates had engage in homosexual activities in Prison - hence this findings is flawed. 

Science may be correct but when we deal with these people - because they are immerse in the belief that "they are homo" that we have to extra careful when we approach the topic. 

What do we do with this argument "maybe with were born this way" 
No point saying prove coz nothing is going to get in... but look behind their historical family background. Do they have abusive father or mother or painful background.
Everyone has natural tendencies ... Alcoholism , gambling but that doesn't mean we allow that to continue and what about people born with natural tendencies to pedophilia ... do we also accept that? We won't say.... oh go ahead and abuse kids, you are born this way.
Solution for all of these tendencies is to turn back to the gospel, to Christ who has the living water and he alone can satisfy the deepest longing of our hearts which are perverted and against god. 

No we are not picking on homosexuality but in the bible, it speaks of more than just homosexuality but coveting neighbors wife etc. 

Psychiatric Robert A. J. Gagnon "Bible and homosexual Practices" has a first hand and good reviews on it. He brings this issue into today's world and acceptable lifestyle was not a result of scientific works but political pressures. In1963 NY Medical Academy says Homosexually is indeed an Illness. Prior to 1973, the APA (American Psychiatric Association) listed that homosexuality as a disorder so the Gay Liberation Movement anticipated that if the influential APA could be convinced that homosexuality is NOT as disorder, the guild would follow shortly after and so will the whole of society. Gay Liberation Movement sees that deviancy is desirable noble way of life and aims to liberate homosexual from legal or social economic oppression.
So in 1973, APA wrote in to strike off Homosexuality as a psychiatric illness. How did it happen with no scientific evidence or explanation why is it taken off? Scientific Research only begin in recent years. We can see how this was a result of political pressure. Evidence is lacking. 

Is it possible to Change
Activist finds there is no reason to change... perfectly normal and good lifestyle. But focusing on family who has done so much work on a person - The mess, the destruction that results from this particular lifestyle, heartache, un-fulfilment and more so the health risk. 

Yes ! it is possible to change
Evidence : 1Cor 6:9-11
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Whao ! we ourselves find ourselves in some of these sins, but focusing on Verse 9 Idolaters and sexual immoral etc.. but Verse 11 you are washed and you were sanctified. Once we realize we are cleanse than we need to align ourselves with god purpose and to glorify HIM for the peace you find in others but you can't. This shows the Power of God and the salvation he promise to us. 


  • Some people say they were force to therapy so they change.  
  • Some go through "honey-moon" in "ex-gay movements"  but a not enough support thereafter.
  • Success rates is an average of 30 - 50% 
  • People start to struggle

But all this, we do not know how many of them were a result of the gospel coming into their lives. But there are places and people we can turn to for help certainly if you truly intend to change. Exodus Who focus their whole ministry on people who need such help and reading up those testimonies of "ex gays" 

PLEA for Christian to be Compassionate
All too often Christians (in the picture shown above) says that homosexuality is a sin and one just needs to stop it, This approach certainly lack understanding and probably lacks compassion, friendship and Christ-like love as well. To simply address the behavior is like looking at the tip of the iceberg while ignoring the bulk of the ice beneath the water line. This is a Challenge for us Christian and it would certainly move further than throwing scientific evidence and political issues at them. Coz these people just long for loving relationships they might have lack in their lives and we can offer that to them.

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